By: J R Janumpalli
In the backdrop of persistent common capital demand by Andhras in the event of formation of Telangana State, we need to know its outline and its implications. The idea of Andhras in common capital proposal appears to be Chandigarh model, where in either it will be a centrally administered ‘UT’ or of joint administration of both the partner states. Except in case of Punjab-Haryana, because of its distinct circumstance, such arrangement did not take place in other 13 state divisions in our country.
In the instances of construction of new capitals like Gandhinagar, Dispur, Raipur etc., the original capitals like Bombay, Shilling, Bhopal were not made common capitals, while the new capitals were getting ready. Wherever it was necessary, the Assembly, Secretariat and other state administration of the new state was run from the original capital till the requisite infrastructure is completed in the new capital city with some administrative arrangement. Even such arrangement was not there in Madras when our Andhra brothers were sent packing to Kurnool town. Almost all the states, when they were created, started using the new capital from day one. There is no reason to have common capital for a long time, waiting for new facilities to come up. Only state which took some time is Assam. It took one year to start using its new capital.
Our Andhra brothers conveniently forget the unceremonious rejection of their demand on Madras city in 1953. The historical spat between Gujarat and Maharashtra for Bombay city is too well known and is considered a paradigm for deciding the rights of native people on the original Capital city. There are quite a number of examples in the 14 cases of new states and the formation of their capitals to clearly indicate the inalienable rights of native people on the original capital city by its geographical situation.
Shillong which was the capital city of greater Assam went to Meghalaya because of its geographical location in the part of Meghalaya, like Bombay and Madras. Shimla was the capital of erstwhile Punjab and Himachal Pradesh from 1947 to 1960. Shimla went to its native Himachal Pradesh on the reorganization of Punjab State.
In all the 14 new states there was no covenant of common capital except in case of Chandigarh, which is straddling both the states on the border in the middle and was quite a suitable candidate for joint capital. It was an integral part of the undivided Punjab State. Punjab and Haryana were not merged earlier, like Hyderabad and Andhra states.
Hyderabad city is an integral part of Telangana. It was the capital of Hyderabad state since its birth and is situated in the center of Telangana more than 200 KM away from Andhra border. There is no rationale whatsoever in the demand of andhras except for their unbridled greed and political hegemony.
When Andhras were lobbying for merger with Hyderabad state, Pandit Nehru said it was the political imperialism of Andhras. Now, this conspiracy for common capital by Andhras is the very extension of the same political imperialism. The stranglehold of these political imperialists continues unabated on Congress party even today. Majority of our present Telangana Congress elements are reduced to political serfs to the party highcommand and are foolishly advocating granting common capital without realizing its implications. It will be another historical blunder; if it is agreed to. Telangana state without our sole sovereign authority on Hyderabad city is meaningless. Andhras can play havoc with our lives even with 5 years of common capital. But our nincompoop T-Congress leaders do not realize it and some of them are freely recommending 10 years of common capital to Andhras.
The Andhras’ concept of ‘common capital’ like their ‘Samaikyandhra’ slogan does not make any sense. This brazen desire could not manifest for them in Madras, where they lived for more than 150 years. The city was on the border of Andhra and Tamilnadu. There was 36% of Andhra population which is double to their presence in Hyderabad now. Whereas, they are living in Hyderabad city only for the last 55 years.
In other new states also the concept of common capital as concocted by Andhras was never considered. The very idea is a product of reprehensible Andhra chauvinism. Creating a new entity of common capital ‘denovo’ for the sake of Andhras and their continued hegemony, is undemocratic, against the time tested conventions and totally unwarranted. It is fraught with malicious political consequences.
The political leadership of Telangana of all parties should know this and do everything they can, to stop it. Lest they repeat the same mistake of their predecessors in 1956 and create another pestering problem to the posterity of Telangana people.
They will find some way to stay and continue with their indirect rule on telengana, as long as political power is in the hands of seemandhra parties, we might find that the same policies will be continued even in separate telengana…
It is high time telengana JAC discusses this threadbare and takes to the streets, they can build a capital in no time, they have very well developed options at their hand, it is only their desire to hold on to telengana at any cost, that is making them ask for time..
Remember it is not just the matter of hyderbad, if we continue to let them have their way they will take it to such a level, that hyderabad will reach vijayawada..they are capable of anything, YSR has proved that with his Greater hyderabad concept, which ate away large parts of telengana..
Sometimes I thought they are just indulging in normal talk, but no they believe in translating it into action..all of their devious plans…
Vijayshree, Very true !
If govt can complete International airport in 4years, metro project in 4years, capital city which needs a building(for secretariate), a big conference hall (for assembly) in no time. If all other 13 states managed it on day one. I am sure Andhra can managed too. They want common capital because they don’t want to loose the control over Hyderabad.
Janardhan,
Correction:
In 2nd para you wrote: Wherever it was necessary, the Assembly, Secretariat and other state administration of the new state was run from the original capital till the requisite infrastructure is completed in the new capital city with some administrative arrangement.
My comment: They did not wait for the new buildings to come up. They tried to use the existing buildings whenever possible. Moved as many offices/assembly to new capital on very 1st day(for assam after 1year). In every case they moved to a temporary existing structure in new capital. They built new buildings much later when they moved from temporary structure in new capital to permanent facility.
Ram,
Yes, that is the ulterior motive behind their demand of common capital.
Thanks for the clarification and your inputs earlier on the subject.
J R J
A simple solution, they can hire a convention hall for Assembly, any ways they would have about 170 ish MLAs.
McKinsey’s and large consulting firms or MNCs hire whole floors in hotels to run their offices. Imagine running the secretariat from 5* facilities. Better than the 1953 Car-noule tents no? All at their own state’s expense. And who knows the centre can bank roll!
Vizag has enough such facilities.
They can as well use the Universities which have large auditoriums and some college buildings can be taken over temporarily for secretariat etc.
And they can even consider taking over the zillions of acres that Mutt-tricks Pershad got for Wan-PICK corridor! That would be a power corridor!
Why they can even run their offices in Cocky-NADA and get fertile ideas in a Knock-Arjna factory setting!
The negotiating tactic is to enable them to realize the value of the golden goose that they got around Hyderabad almost phukat – every fellow who seems to be protesting for SA has vested interests here.
Give an inch they’ll take a yard at the least an acre normally!
Let the T cong-grass empees not be naive and give even an inch.
The SA folk got more than what they bargained for.
It’s time they grew up and let go of Telengana milch cow’s udder.
If jagadapati can build Land-go hills and claim to fame a/an/the ‘largest’ mall, or gay-three con-truck-shuns can build a ‘world class’ motel, why not use their abilities to build a world-class city for themselves?
And they can outsource the work to jagadapatti as his company has experience to fly by night and move office from Hyderabad to Good-Gaon! Or Grandee Molly-Car-Juna Raut who have experience to fly from Male to Madras in a night!
Or they can hire the venereable Row.horei who has experience in fishing in troubled waters and who can convert a nice lake into usable real-estate and by breaking laws as eazy as demolishing an ole building! Like the Kisna zillla friends say ‘kompa kolleryindi’!
Our T-Con-grass empees can learn from Maldives how to dispatch quickly!
The best part is that they can have the cake and eat, and sell it too! A world-class CAPITAL and a world-class opportunity to milk the state no?
Something is always better than nothing. Getting Telangna is more important than common capital issue. Anything is better than not getting separate state at all. Let them have common capital if they give Telangana. It will be a step forward. The other things can be dealt with later. But Telanganites should be vigilent in deling with them even after Telangana is formed.
Sure Raj makes sense with any normal Indian, not with the SA politicians. Give them an inch they will ask for an acre.
I think Hyderabad should be non-negotiable.
Actually, I wrote in another post on this site, – I think we should seek compensation for the damage to our culture and to our lives, our economy and the ecology – a small penalty should be about 5000 crores to be paid for each of the number of years they have destroyed Telengana. Of course we can be graceful, they need not pay all at once – they can pay in annual instalments or better EMIs.
And we will join their fight with Central government to get them the best deal – may be 25000 crores to build their capital? Of course, we insist that they first pay the 5000 crores as our due and build their capital with the rest of money. By USD purchase power parity, they get 4 billion USD x 40 160 billion USD! And every year after that they pay a compensation of a billion USD to Telengana. A good deal I’d say!
I am willing to negotiate on the 5000 crore per annum bit. Let’s say a 5% discount, because they are our Telugu speaking brethren?
What say you?
@Soonya,
Between 1956 and 1968 The fund diversion From Telangana to Andhra is 118crores. This is huge amount considering AP budget is 22crores in 1957. Before 1973, Telangana regional committee used to maintain seperate accounts for Telagnana and Andhra revenue/expenditure accounts. After 1973, we don’t know how much is the fund diversion. In today’s rupees, fund diversion is in lakhs of crores.
Source:
1) http://books.google.com/books?id=mISVwxcF5asC&pg=PA175#v=onepage&q&f=false
2) http://books.google.com/books?id=mUheLSywxYsC&lpg=PA205&ots=kXslVTl5A3&pg=PA205#v=onepage&q&f=false
Thanks for the info bro. Appreciate it.
Friends,
These SA guys are contributing 30% revenue and spending 70% of State revenue in their SA region.In Hyderabad also it is the same pattern where ever their colonies/ghettos are there they are spending major share of GHMC funds developing infrastructure or business for themselves and getting fattened. Rest is spent on other areas of the city.They sell or donate ‘Phukat’ Telangana lands and get prime government projects with kickbacks/concessional rates/tax exemptions get filthy rich and buy the support of their adhishtanam with the corporate muck and show off as ‘development dinosaurs’.
If the state is demerged to pre 1956 state,they have to live on their own revenue and there are no ‘phukat’ lands available in ‘SA’ for their ‘phukat’ investment.That is why they are cribbing for Common Capital,as long as they can get.The Congress Adhishtanam which is hand in glove with this vicious political-corporate-money mafia is very sympathetic to these ‘Thugs and Pindaris’. Some of our ‘bevakhoof’ T-congress ministers are ‘falling head over their heels’ to give them 10 or more years of Common Capital, for them to continue the loot and to consolidate their earlier lucre, in the hope of getting some breadcrumbs for themselves also.That is the diabolic game they are playing.How to contain them in this dirty game is our immediate concern.
@aditya
if a settler pays house/muncipal tax to ghmc, will that amount come in andhra or telangana’s account?
@Deepak
If a person lives in Hyderabad and uses services provided by Hyderabad muncipality corporation, all his taxes belongs to Hyderabad. Hyderabad is integral part of Telangana. One of the features of gentleman’s agreement is Telangana revenue(inlcuding Hyderabad revenue) will be spent on Telangana. Before 1973, We had Telangana regional committee to make sure it. With that committee gone, there is nobody check the fund diversion.
If a person lives in Bombay, his taxes belongs to Bombay. If a person lives in USA, those taxes belongs to USA.
@ram
in that case, why do u consider settlers as unwanted ppl?
Since you seem to be another Seemandhra Gazini and asking the same question all over again, I thought re-posting my earlier reply helps:
Deepak Bhai,
This is the problem with you seemandhra folks. Why don’t you just reverse the question and ask yourself “Why are only Andhra settlers fearing Telangana state formation and not people from UP and Bihar?”
Deepak bhai, as we told you earlier too, please ask some intelligent questions on this website. This is not frequented by your usual Balayya and Siru fans. This is not one of those “brainless” DiscussionBoards to indulge in some low-IQ chatter.
Andhras are not the first migrants to Hyderabad. The city had welcomed migrants from as far as Iran and Africa. And those migrants have blended so well into this city, that they don’t consider Iran and Africa as “మా వైపు” or “మా సైడు” anymore.
When the original Hyderabad state was trifurcated, the Kannadiga and Marathi districts left the city to Telugu people graciously. They didn’t claim that they had developed this city. They did not demand this city be made into a UT.
Now they are called true Hyderabadis and that is the true Hyderabadi spirit my brother.
You Andhras can never become Hyderabadis as long as you feel threatened by a Telangana state And as long as your leaders keep demanding Hyderabad be cut into two and shared as a UT.
and now the answer for your question.
No, we don’t think employing a andhra person as a petrol bunk filler is a sin, we think not allowing a local guy to take up that job is a sin.
We think not respecting the local culture, customs, language and politics as a sin.
మా ప్రాబ్లం వలసలు కాదు మిత్రమా. “అన్ని గడపలకన్నా మా గడపే మిన్న” అన్న సీమాంధ్రుల అభిజాత్యమే మా ప్రాబ్లం.
ఇది మేం కొన్ని లక్షల సార్లు చెప్పాం. అయినా మీలాంటి వారు రోజుకొకరు నిద్రలేచి “అసలు మీ ప్రాబ్లం ఏమిటి? మీకు తెలంగాణ ఎందుకు కావాలె” అని అడగడమూ, మేం గట్టిగా గాలి పీల్చుకుని, ఆ భేతాళ ప్రశ్నలకు జవాబులివ్వడమూ జరుగుతూనే ఉంది…
I don’t consider settlers as unwanted people. Telangana should attract best and brightest from all over the world for the benefit of Telangana. Telangana is and will be part of India and every Indian have right to live anywhere in India including Hyderabad.
What I condemn is discrimination by its govt. Discrimination is there at every level. That has to stop. For that to happen, Telangana people should remove the domination of Andhra politicians in assembly. Telangana state will bring that. Telangana resources will be used to develop Telangana. Just like Tamilnadu favors locals over the migrants for certain govt benefits, Telangana govt will favor its locals. Nothing more nothing less.
I don’t understand why should we give hyd as common capitol for 10 years. They have vizag that is almost equal to Hyderabad. They can build Govt offices in 2 years. There are big contractors from Andhra, they will help in building the capital.
In hyd, all govt offices were build at the time of Nizam. We want Telangana with Hyderabad , NO Common capitol.
10 years, they can do many things. They will divert all funds from Hyderbad to Vizag and loot the city.
Actually,YSR had foreseen that formation of Telangana is inevitable.He managed to drag on the issue by pampering and black mailing congress high command.He cleverly conspired and extended the MCH Limits to add neighboring telangana districts and form GHMC,so that if at all Telangana is formed he can bring greater hyderabad as UR/state demand.Now these seemandhra politicians are backing the same !If actual/old hyderabad district is considered there will not more than few thousand seemandhra settlers population.But they want GHMC areas to be included in hyderabad !
@ venkat
ur point is totally agreable let’s look at the biharis,up walas,and the marwaris they were all here for centuries doing bureaucracy, policing and doing business they never thought to claim for hyderabad’s development during their tenure that is the nobleness of gentle men they were the badababus in every office but they never thought of their folks they gave opportunities to native but look at the sa b…s all they did was for their kith and kin
nehru rightly pointed at the political imperialism what the ratio they maintained in newly established organisations viz., BHEL,ECIL,THE DEFENCE ORGANISATIONS and ofcourse the state govt offices and the secretariat in all those organisations our matriculate bros were made peons and their people with same qualifications the clerks lets remind them that OU was there producing graduates to accamodated as mere clerks whereas they occupied the senior positions
its high time fora like this to gather more people to understand our viewpoint and more views, this is first post ever by me i am professional engineer (electrical)
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